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NO BRAKES GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.29 17:19:00 - [1] Originally by: Shiv Deviir null I dont post much on these forums but I think i will put my buck o' five in. I have a theory about goon behavior. DISCLAIMER: I might be wrong, I have been wrong before. Theory: I think that goonswarm puts up this front of "not caring, gun slinging, crap compactors" so that those in the eve community will not take them seriously as a whole. Maybe they figure that they wont be viewed as a threat until its too late. I remember before the whole great war started, they were recruiting pretty much anyone. Thats how they were looked at, "oh they take anyone, they must suck". Now people are eating their words, and so that the community will keep underestimating them, they come off as ridiculous. Now for the whole Great War discussion, I believe that when BoB started making a serious claim that they "wanted to own all 0.0" that many people took offense to this. Who the hell wants to pay rent to some face overlord for ratting or mining in a system literally across the universe. Of course when people take offense some people turn and whine to their friends and some make a plan. They made a plan, Red Alliance made a plan and so did many other corporations and alliances. Now that the "plan" is giving fruit, it would be self defeating to just leave it to grow on its own. If anyone wanted to completely defeat someone they would do well to take a lesson from the Roman Empire. You must completely annihilate everything the opposition has, brick by brick. You must salt the earth so that nothing will every grow there again, you must erase their name from the history books. Like I said, i could be wrong, and I probably am. They might be insanely ******** and have no direction whatsoever, or they might be acting in subterfuge. Oh and these thoughts are completely my own and have no reflection on what others in my corporation or alliance may think. Their thoughts are their own. Close but you missed some key details. Shortly after the jews blew up the world trade center members of the somethingawful.com gaming community accidentally knocked offline one of the biggest russian money laundering scams on the internet in a misguided fursecution attempt. In order to prevent retribution, these goons were told to make reparations. The most enterprising of them all, Remedial, vowed to harness the untapped potential of thousands of pepsi-swilling goons locked at home in basements expending thousands of untold hours playing MMO's. He ended up building goonfleet and after paying off his russian antagonists, became business partners with them as they realized the untapped profit potential in the natural resources of goon gamers. Ultimately the nerfing of complexes as well as the impending purges of developer kickbacks goonfleet had enjoyed before the internal affairs division was created caused Remedial to cash out, leaving us where we are today.
NO BRAKES GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.29 17:26:00 - [2] Originally by: Schani Kratnorr Originally by: Phelan Driscoll (SNIP Failed attempt at continuing antique line of insults) Well, admittedly a misguided attempt at self-humor clearly wasted on you... You failed to answer the vast majority of my post? How do you feel about having to reasort to "your momma" references? How do cope with falling short at the very thing you're supposedly "good at"? How does it feel to be trampled intellectually by a fat git with a computer (ie. ME)? How do does it make you feel knowing that there are people, like me, out there that are better than you at everything? Do you feel alone now? With the infamous Goonswarm reputation to live up to, you are falling way short of impressing me. To paraphrase Vader, your forumskills are weak old man... Now, on with the show. ON TOPIC This thread was about the inability of Goonswarm to communicate. Naturally it derailed, only to proove the point of the original poster... that if you cannot communicate, you are better off simply not trying. Thanks for keeping me awake for a few hours. Now I must retire to make dinner. Perhaps we can all meet in the next thread? Will there be more one-liners like this one? Originally by: Iron Zarkasm Can't believe I'm first this one: Originally by: Nlewis gb2gbs and this: Originally by: The Mittani ahahahahah Will the Goonswarm manage to pull out yet another fine line of insults like these golden gems: Originally by: Phelan Driscoll Another good option for you might be suicide. Originally by: fishblades "you "sure" "do" "use" "a lot" of "quote"s" Originally by: Elohe LOOK AT THE FUKKEN PUBBIE Originally by: Phelan Driscoll blow me Originally by: SpaceMoose ** you and your moderator msn buddy. Originally by:** Phelan Driscoll Tell them I also said your mother is a ***. Or will Goons eventually evolve beyond posting for the sake of posting? Originally by:** The Mittani quoting some words i didn't even read Tune in next thread... -dbp
NO BRAKES GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.29 17:51:00 - [3] Originally by: Illaria Originally by: Bein Glorious thread sucks Indeed, I should've know better than to make any attempt post something relating to Goons on this forum. Hopefully some moderator will give it the coup de grace. The Vaccum Vid rekindled my fascination with EVE and made me reactivate my account. This here killed it again. CRAWWWWLING IN MY SKIIIIIN...
NO BRAKES GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.29 18:29:00 - [4] Originally by: Sergeant Spot In response to the original post I remember when goons were first showing up on Bob's radar. At that time, there was a mild APPROVAL of the Goons by many BoB members. If anything, those approving of the Goons vastly outnumbered those who did not. Goons were a small blip on the radar at the time, but the general attitude in BoB (myself included) was along the lines of "Cool, some folks willing dive into 0.0 and fight, even early in their game." Then something happened Something that made BoB VERY VERY hostile goons. Multiple goons repeatedly, over a period weeks, mocked the real life death of a player. In my own case I was convoed by random goons two seperate times BEFORE I realized that there was an issue. I did not even know anyone had died, and I had not posted anything on the issue. I had no idea what the goons who convoed me were talking about until later. Once I learned what was going on, I was livid that such filthy individuals even exist. The goons eventually tried to explain it away as if it was one person and a forum signiture, and spent most of there effort accusing BoB of trying to find an excuse to persecute them. It was that 1st incident that dumped a large vat of poison into the water. All that has followed is traced to that 1st incident and is colored by it, even if the people involved are unaware of that incident. Tell me how you felt about accepting some of those same people into your alliance? Or better yet why things are no longer personal? Where is the outrage?
NO BRAKES GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.29 18:48:00 - [5] Originally by: Ki An Amirite? Seriously tho, there's no point in posting these kinds of threads. We're playing a roleplaying game, and there's a lot of roleplaying going on here from both sides. If you don't like the way the Goons are posting, gather up a posse and shoot them in game. If there's enough people who feel like you do, they'll die eventually. On the other hand, if there are more people who enjoy the Goon posts, you'll probably end up dying. There's a lot of trolling going on in this thread, and people keep falling for it. If you don't like one-liner posts or catch phrazes, just don't reply to them. It's pretty easy tbqh imho. Post in another thread or stay away from CAOD for a while if it gets you worked up. Quiet you're scaring the fish.
NO BRAKES GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.29 23:26:00 - [6] Originally by: General Windypops Edited by: General Windypops on 29/10/2007 23:21:22 Originally by: Dagam I especially liked the one that got BoB to declare a jihad on goons that put them in this position now one year later. Which Goons are you referring to? The ones who made up forum signatures mocking the real life death of a BoB player which caused the war in the first place? Or the Goons who launched the full assault on the entire Eve community with their threadnought. Or the Goons who spammed the forums with illegal, pro-terrorism, ultra-racist and homophobic 'cartoons' yet who Goons continued to welcome in their ranks claiming it was all just 'free speech'? Hahah oh man this again? I told you you should report those illegal items to the authorities if you're so concerned about it. Or do you not have the honour to do the right thing?
NO BRAKES GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.29 23:41:00 - [7] Originally by: General Windypops Originally by: missionalt internet space lawyers: would goonswarm be liable if windypop's head were to explode Thanks for your detailed repsonse to the questions raised in my posts. Can't defend yourself with logic? No problem, just launch an ad hominem attack and fail to answer the question. So uh where is this illegal material exactly?
NO BRAKES GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.29 23:51:00 - [8] Originally by: The Mittani Originally by: Internet Online NO TROLLING IN THIS THREAD BELOW THE DOTTED LINE .................................................................................... earnest, meaningful reply Underhanded compliment.
NO BRAKES GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.29 23:54:00 - [9] Originally by: General Windypops If only the Goons could match their forum bravado with in game victories. The fact is that they blew their Ace card when they all stamped their feet and promised that they would leave en masse if they didn't get the result they wanted when they launched their threadnought against the Eve community. They blackmailed CCP with the threat that they would all leave if they didn't get the result their tantrum demanded. When it was found that their claims were based on lies, they never came good on their promise. So much for their independence of spirit. Sadly, because of their lack of balls, we all have to endure their offensive forum rantings. I guess they care more about internetspaceships and POSwars than they like to admit. Pretty amusing to see them all still here, so long after that promise. You forgot that we've successfully convinced 40% of the american public that the jews blew up the WTC.
NO BRAKES GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.29 23:57:00 - [10] Originally by: General Windypops Originally by: Devian 666 In addition what some members say does not necessarily represent the whole. Yeah, but sadly it seems that most Goon members are bullied by the immature majority not to take a stand, and let themselves get walked over. I'm sure there are countless Goon members who hang their head in shame when they read the smack their brothers post. The sad thing is that they're not strong enough to stand up to it. More like they already got banned from eve-o
NO BRAKES GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.30 00:00:00 - [11] Originally by: General Windypops Originally by: NO BRAKES Originally by: General Windypops Originally by: Devian 666 In addition what some members say does not necessarily represent the whole. Yeah, but sadly it seems that most Goon members are bullied by the immature majority not to take a stand, and let themselves get walked over. I'm sure there are countless Goon members who hang their head in shame when they read the smack their brothers post. The sad thing is that they're not strong enough to stand up to it. More like they already got banned from eve-o Yes, but as you know from our in-game evemail exchange NONE of the players who posted the following were kicked from goonfleet: - Pictures of black men with captions about how black people were just like apes - ****ographic photos on the general forums - Images mocking the 9/11 attacks Why would anyone get banned from goonfleet for that?
NO BRAKES GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.30 00:02:00 - [12] Originally by: General Windypops You endorse it? As brothers in christ we unequivocally and wholeheartedly endorse all of goonfleets children.
NO BRAKES GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.30 00:10:00 - [13] Originally by: General Windypops Originally by: Hrin Originally by: General Windypops If only the Goons could match their forum bravado with in game victories. The fact is that they blew their Ace card when they all stamped their feet and promised that they would leave en masse if they didn't get the result they wanted when they launched their threadnought against the Eve community. They blackmailed CCP with the threat that they would all leave if they didn't get the result their tantrum demanded. When it was found that their claims were based on lies, they never came good on their promise. So much for their independence of spirit. Sadly, because of their lack of balls, we all have to endure their offensive forum rantings. I guess they care more about internetspaceships and POSwars than they like to admit. Pretty amusing to see them all still here, so long after that promise. HAHAHA quoting idiocy. whew, that post has it all. Veiled threats, conspiracy theories, failswarm. You're one angry monkey. You really should look into the history of your alliance, and what happened at the time of the Threadnought before making yourself look like an ignoramus. That's one angry monkey.
NO BRAKES GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.30 00:17:00 - [14] Originally by: General Windypops Hi NO BRAKES When are you going to respond to this thread? You answered my question with a question of your own, not sure what you are looking for there.
NO BRAKES GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.30 00:27:00 - [15] Originally by: General Windypops Originally by: NO BRAKES Originally by: General Windypops Hi NO BRAKES When are you going to respond to this thread? You answered my question with a question of your own, not sure what you are looking for there. Um, well you spammed the forums with claims that I'd threatened via eve-mail to report you to 'the authorities'. I assume from your silence that you admit you were talking b****hit? link post
NO BRAKES GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.30 00:33:00 - [16] Originally by: General Windypops Originally by: NO BRAKES Originally by: General Windypops Originally by: NO BRAKES Originally by: General Windypops Hi NO BRAKES When are you going to respond to this thread? You answered my question with a question of your own, not sure what you are looking for there. Um, well you spammed the forums with claims that I'd threatened via eve-mail to report you to 'the authorities'. I assume from your silence that you admit you were talking b**hit? link post It's remarkable that you can't remember what you yourself posted but here's your accusation, once again: Originally by:** NO BRAKES In our gentle and most tender evemail conversations you mentioned the illegal nature of items posted on these forums and how they would be reported to the proper authorities. I am merely wondering how your righteous struggle is progressing my dearest. Your proof? So did you ever report that to the authorities?
NO BRAKES GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.30 14:29:00 - [17] This thread is awesome and you are all awesome.
NO BRAKES GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.30 16:55:00 - [18] Originally by: Zell Shadowcast Originally by: OklahomaCity Dynamite logic ITT That joke really bombed Kablammo
NO BRAKES GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.30 17:02:00 - [19] Originally by: Illaria Originally by: PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik Originally by: Zell Shadowcast tl:dr wd:ls Well done: learn some. I dont get angry when people dont read long posts, especially if they are badly constructed. But this new FOTM of throwing out a tl:dr to any post over two sentences is just sad. Isnt this a waste of bandwidth or something? whats the difference of putting out a non-post with tl:dr and simply just going "eoige mgejo gio gege ge [e]b prbnl;xa" on the keys? Both are useless. Mods- I know its difficult but you really should just ban people from the forums for throwing out crap like that... Don't get yourself trolled by Goons, because this is all what these catchphrases are supposed to do. Goons, the EVE kind, not necessarily the SA kind, are in general (there are notable exceptions, but these post mostly on SHC) the worst posters on the net. You're trying pretty hard.
NO BRAKES GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.30 17:27:00 - [20] Originally by: Illaria Originally by: NO BRAKES You're trying pretty hard. What I always wanted to know: whose alt are you no brakes? Your post oscillate between genuinely witty and the worst kind of ** imaginable. Unfortunately it comes down more often on the latter side than the other. No it doesn't really oscillate, its always the worst kind of ** imaginable. You'd know who I was if you didn't quit.
NO BRAKES GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.10.30 17:47:00 - [21] Originally by: Illaria Originally by: Ramlir I hear ya, sister. Their use of catchphrases and mockery of dead people isn't what I'd expect from something awful members. How I yearn for the grey pastures of GBS or my home away from home, Post Your Favorite You know well what I mean. It's not the catchphrases per se, it's the general level of posting displayed here, that'd never be tolerated on SA, except in FYAD, BYOB and YCS. Damn, forum whoring is preventing my work from being done. Also the whining and backseat moderating that would get you probated in a heartbeat.

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